Author and Poet, Rachel Welcher, joins Kelsi to talk about her collection of poems entitled, "Two Funerals, then Easter" in which Rachel shares personal stories of both grief and joy.

Kelsi chats with singer/songwriter, Andy Gullahorn, about his writing process and the impact of ending stories with the good news of grace and the gospel.

In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with illustrator Natasha Kennedy about her illustrations in the FatCat Children Series books (Lexham Press).