TOPIC INDEXJoy (2)

  1. Grace for the New Year

    book
    01/12/24
    4 mins
    By Katie Koplin Gretchen Ronnevik
    Gretchen and Katie are back at recording and they talk about where they've been, and what they learned.

  2. Joy and Suffering

    book
    04/14/23
    1 min
    By Katie Koplin Gretchen Ronnevik
    Joy isn't getting what you want when you want it. We can't produce joy, but we can produce pleasure, but we often get those two things confused.